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Some Chick's Rant 04

Posted by knuxrouge Jun. 22, 2009 @ 10:32 AM EDT

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SCR 01 Theme song to Sonic Unleashed
SCR 02 Street Fighter 4
SCR 03 OMG Sawnik!
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Rant 04 Sprite Rippers

Talk about shameless.
As many of you know, I do flash movies, it's a fun hobby to say the least, and if you pay any attention, I use sprites. I don't rip them myself, I get them from other places, my main resource is The Mystical Forest Zone, great place, a wide selection of original and edited sprites from skilled people. I love it, it allows me to add variety to my flash movie(s), one in particular be Chaos Sonic, which is going well. I'm in the middle of wrapping Chapter 3 up, which is basically a pretty epic fight scene, so I'm doing movie clips of some key animations, I tend to take a combination of several sprites to get things done, so I pick up a sheet and get to work, however there is something I noticed when working with these sprites, some of them are pretty subtle, but most of them are shameless and redundant.
Credit, they want credit for their work.
Now I never mind giving credit where credit is due, in fact I prefer to do so, even if someone does not want to be credited, I feel the need to let people know that "this" person helped me, so naturally, I wouldn't mind.
But dammit, these people really lay it on thick.
There's the normal shtick.*directly quoted--names are edited for privacy*
"Ripped and Edited by Sephiroth the Hedgehog
Give Credit if used"
Now I never mind following that, after all, I wouldn't be able to use these sprites had he not ripped them, then there are the really subtle and Modest ones
"Sonic Advance 1 sprites, ripped by Danny, if you used this, please give credit and let me know where it's used :)
email@emailsite.com"
or
"Ripped by Ham, no credit needed"
I can respect those, and thus makes me want to give credit even more, because of the modesty of these people, but sometimes, they get carries away.....
"RPG Maker Sonic sprites
Sonic- originally ripped by Danny and edited by Blitz and Dikkon Y (all other sprites were edited from my sprites!)
Knuckles- edited from Knuckles ripped by Danny and Lank
Shadow- originally ripped by Deek and edited by Dikkon Y
Metal Overlord- created by Someguy
Mighty- created by Someguy
MORE COMING RLY!"
{here's the good part}
"GIVE CREDIT OR BURN IN HELL"
Do I need to comment!? That's fucking bullshit. Seriously, "or burn in hell"!?
For one---why threaten someone? Is it supposed to scare them into crediting him or them or whoever!?
For two---what if I didn't, last time I checked it wasn't up to a bunch of nerd whether or not I get condemned.
For three---what the hell is keeping me from not giving credit!? What are the sanctions? How will I be punished? Will I get banned of the internet? By who's jurisdiction?

Seeing how there is no way I could legally be punished by not crediting them, I don't see what's stopping me, other than common courtesy.

For four---They act like they have legal claims to these copyrighted characters!! I'm sorry, but they really shouldn't do that. It's so stupid and selfish to do that, again, I don't mind giving credit, but when I'm ordered to like some little pussy ass bitch, then it makes me not want to.

Here's another one.

"IF ANYTHING ON THIS SHEET IS USED IN ANY WAY, THE PERSON USING IT MUST GIVE CREDIT AND A LINK TO MY SITE"
No.
I've used those sprites before, and credited the person who edited them and ripped them, but no way in hell am I gonna turn into an advertisement that more than likely will fail.

"XX Zone sprites
Ripped by Raindrop
Give the credit, and if this is stolen, I'll take you to this level and throw you off"
......
So wait, if I don't give credit.......it---by some logic counts as theft, despite the person ripping the sheet having no legal claim to what he most likely illegally ripped.
And if it is "stolen" he will take me to a fictional stage in a video game.....and throw me off of it.
Oh wow, I better credit him right!?

"CREDIT JAMES E.T. OR IT WILL BE CONSIDERED THEFT!"
Again, despite you editing them, they originated as sprites belonging to copyrighted characters, icons and logos, so if I don't credit you, how is it considered theft? It's not like I'm crediting myself for ripping/editing the sprites, so how am I stealing it? And what the fuck will you do if I don't? Spam my inbox with hate emails, oo-scary!
Don't fuck with this guy, he has no life so he'll spend his time stalking you, because you stole something from him, despite having no legal claim to it.

"Terms of Use: Feel free to use this sheet as you wish provided that you specifically credit me when used. Feel free to add to this sheet with your own custom made Shadow sprites in the same style . As long as you credit me, I don't mind"

Ain't that cute? He gave me rules to follow.
And he wants to specifically be credited, wow. Lets, passively credit him instead.
Also, this is an edited sheet ripped from other people, yes he gives credit, but it's not right to specifically credit him, when others contributed to the effort, that's like me taking all the credit for Chaos Sonic, even though I'm collaborating with 2 other people, who I respect as members of the SFC.
That's bullcrap!
So, it's been established that this guy is an asshole, a dictator with no power, and a selfish dick.
Nice to know, all the same he gave rules to follow, so if you don't follow them, you can't use them right? You know, it's pointless to give rules when--
A. You have no legal claim to make rules to follow
and
B. There are no consequences for breaking the rules

I just don't get. What goes through their minds when they think it's a good idea to give these rules out or threaten people to give credit, all is needed is
"Ripped by me, please give credit"
and that's it, I'll give credit no questions asked, and again, some people just do this and that's enough, but others get really stupid with it, and I'll never understand.

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Jun. 22, 2009 | 8:46 PM godpervert says:

Nice

Jun. 23, 2009 | 5:09 AM knuxrouge responds:

What is?


Jun. 22, 2009 | 9:48 PM Mizox says:

they probably just do it for the lulz, one time I saw one that said he'd have me arrested if I didn't credit him, to which I thought: <em>HOW WOULD HE KNOW?</em> I mean, there's only 9001 other people who ripped those same sprites

Jun. 23, 2009 | 5:09 AM knuxrouge responds:

Yeah, they might, but it's so not obvious.


Jun. 23, 2009 | 11:10 AM Twone says:

Haha, "Sephiroth the Hedgehog." I love it when people think they're cool when they put DANGEROUS HEDGEHOG names to their stuff.

Jun. 23, 2009 | 12:38 PM knuxrouge responds:

That......was a rename I made up (names were edited, but the actual message was quoted directly).
But I DID get it off of some other name I saw.


Jun. 23, 2009 | 7:31 PM finestbamf says:

yuo seem like a cool person

Jun. 23, 2009 | 9:44 PM knuxrouge responds:

And what gave you that impression?


Jun. 24, 2009 | 10:33 AM Twone says:

I know, but I've seen names like that. It's pretty lol.

Jun. 24, 2009 | 11:05 AM knuxrouge responds:

Sure is!


Jun. 25, 2009 | 5:51 PM Mizox says:

I think I might have done something like that once, I don't recall, I'll have to look through my old edits (I really hope I didn't)

Jun. 25, 2009 | 6:22 PM knuxrouge responds:

Bandwagoning for the loss.


Jun. 25, 2009 | 6:06 PM SupraAddict says:

Great blog post man

Jun. 25, 2009 | 6:22 PM knuxrouge responds:

Thanks, "man".


Jun. 25, 2009 | 6:37 PM Chdonga says:

You think that's BS? There was this guy named Mega the hedgehog. (not real account name), he'd make a bunch of recolors and try to submit them to TsR and the credit tags that are some variation of "I am a spriting god and you're not even worthy of using my sprites." He got a permaban.

Jun. 26, 2009 | 6:07 AM knuxrouge responds:

Well deserved.


Jun. 25, 2009 | 7:38 PM Mizox says:

Further ships of the 1st /x/terminator Fleet are CLASSIFIED. EPIC-9001 clearance required to access data

Jun. 26, 2009 | 6:08 AM knuxrouge responds:

Yeah....


Jun. 26, 2009 | 12:33 PM albatross412 says:

I know exactly what you are talking about. When me and my team collaborate on a list I give credit where credit is due. I credit them when they don't ask (which they never do). But when people try to pour credit and glory on themselves for something they didn't do in the first place, I do the opposite.

Jun. 26, 2009 | 1:03 PM knuxrouge responds:

I KNO RITE!?


Jun. 26, 2009 | 7:54 PM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

why not just....make your own sprites? they're so small and simple (unless its a fighting game).
I dont know why people dont want to be more creative with pixel stuff

Jun. 27, 2009 | 12:12 PM knuxrouge responds:

I tried making my own, it's really hard. I could learn, but I'd really need more free time for that.


Jun. 30, 2009 | 12:47 PM Mizox says:

Skype?

Jun. 30, 2009 | 7:50 PM knuxrouge responds:

No.


Jun. 30, 2009 | 3:36 PM ikool says:

Hmmmmm, yea.
Some sprite rippers act like total jackasses.
There have been times where there has been great sprite sheets, but just because of something stupid like: "Please Message Me If Sprites Are Used... OR ELSE!", It just completely annoys me and I just leave the sprites.

I don't mind giving credit, but when they act like nubs about it, I just can't take it.

Jun. 30, 2009 | 7:51 PM knuxrouge responds:

It's far too irritating.


Jun. 30, 2009 | 10:48 PM Chdonga says:

You know what I hate? People who become an author just because of a single crappy 30 second loop flash entitled 'Mariov.s.Naruto' but it's just Naruto stands still and Mario runs into Naruto, Mario falls down and dies somehow, then they show a selectable text that says "Naruto wins!" and it just barely manages to pass the portal. It's even more annoying when a bunch of people with evil auras and 'the-hedgehog' and 'the-fox' in their name vote 10 because it has potential.

Jul. 1, 2009 | 11:27 AM knuxrouge responds:

I personally don't mind the newbie stuff, it shows that the author is developing on something, but if they don't try to improve, make some original idea, or even attempt to reach outside the box, then I stop caring, custom characters are okay if in limited amouts and not ridiculously overpowered for literally no reason at all. Actual character development helps too.
And it pisses me off when I'm told what to votes. On a bad day, that earns them an instant 0 bomb.


Jul. 3, 2009 | 7:35 PM Crink says:

Location: Face deep in manko.

O__O

Jul. 3, 2009 | 8:36 PM knuxrouge responds:

n.n|


Jul. 5, 2009 | 2:00 AM Mizox says:

location: face deep in vagina

WHY?

Jul. 5, 2009 | 1:48 PM knuxrouge responds:

WHY NOT?


Jul. 6, 2009 | 1:34 PM Mizox says:

how could a face even fit?

Jul. 6, 2009 | 1:58 PM knuxrouge responds:

Dohohoho, if you want it that badly, anything could happen.


Jul. 6, 2009 | 2:56 PM Mizox says:

el muerte peludo! el muerte peludo!

Jul. 6, 2009 | 4:20 PM knuxrouge responds:

¿que?


Jul. 6, 2009 | 9:30 PM Firefoxrocks says:

(Yeah I read the whole thing) Oh man I love the The Mystical Forest Zone! They update once every once a life time, but its high quality sh*t. (I fridgn love There's Something About Tails)

Jul. 7, 2009 | 2:36 PM knuxrouge responds:

kay.....


Jul. 6, 2009 | 10:37 PM Mizox says:

the Guinea Pigs shall rise!

Jul. 7, 2009 | 2:36 PM knuxrouge responds:

What?


Jul. 7, 2009 | 7:50 PM Mizox says:

it's from an episode of South Park

Jul. 8, 2009 | 11:28 AM knuxrouge responds:

Oh....
k...


Jul. 8, 2009 | 9:19 PM Mizox says:

speaking of which, how about a Peruvian Pan Flute Band?

Jul. 9, 2009 | 11:32 AM knuxrouge responds:

.....huh?


Jul. 9, 2009 | 3:47 AM greyshadowskyknight says:

dont neglect the rpg forums, i made a decent review for star ocean 4, dont be a asshat!

Jul. 9, 2009 | 11:33 AM knuxrouge responds:

dont neglect newgrounds then.

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